Idag den 31 Maj 2010, är det exakt 22 år sen SNM intagit Hargeisa del 1

Idag den 31 Maj 2010, är det ecakt 22 år sen SNM intagit Hargeisa, Somalilands nuvarande huvudstad Hargeisa, Klockan var runt 2:30 midnatt när Hargeysa borna hörde kraftiga explotioner sydväst om Stan, där låg millitär högkvarteten  26 . Hargiesa har fallit för SNM:s händer,  hade tagit kontroll över stan   2 av 4 delar av Stan. General Mohamed Asid Hirsi Morgan,  flydde från sin  residens i Hargeisa, Somalilands nuvarande president palats, han flydde  och var  rädd Att SNM skulle ta honom levande., när SNM attakerade milllitär högkvareten 26  kunde han inte stanna där utan flydde vidare till Hargeisas flygplats. Jag kommer ihåg den natten faktiskt, Jag skulle gå på toaletten och när jag lämnade pojk rumets dörr såg min mamma stod  mitt i Hallen (daarada) hon blev vaken av ljudet explotioner/granater. Jag frågade vad händer mamma och jag kommer inte riktigt ihåg vad hon svarade, men gick på toa och kom tillbaka från toa, då Intesiverade striderna. Vi bodde mitt av stan och hörde kraftiga explotioner. Jag kom tillbaka till mitt rum, men kunde inte sova utan var vaken hela natten. På morganen tisdagen 31 Maj 1988, var en ny dag för Hageisa borna, som kommer förändara deras liv avsevärt mycket. En av de är jag och min familj, flydde från kriget då 1988. Våra liv har faktist förändrat sig dramtisk,  precis som hundra tusentals människor från Somaliland. Hur har vi (somalilanderna)  blivit påverkade av detta krig flykten åtminstonde jag.

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Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, dispersed or bombed out of their homes in northern Somalia

Today, May 31, 2010, it is exactly 22 years since the SNM (Somali National Movement) marched into what was then called (northern Somalia) is now Somaliland. It was 31 May 1988. I remember it like it was yesterday. I want you my dear readers read this newspaper article that was written by the Guardian, January 1989th.      I will eventually post pictures and my experience on this particular day. An emotional day that took place in my beautiful city of Hargeisa


Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, dispersed or bombed out of their homes in northern Somalia after government military operations, which Western aid workers say, are little short of genocide.

The action has been concentrated on the three northern towns of Hargeisa, Berbera and Burao where some 20,000 people are believed to have died in recent bombing raids by the government against the strongholds of the rebel Somali National Movement.

Many thousands of others are being systematically denied food because Somali forces are deliberately holding up essential supplies.

Aid officials said that up to 800,000 people – almost all of them Issaq nomads- have been displaced as a result of the civil war. A quarter of these, and possibly as many as 300,0000, were now struggling to survive in wretched conditions in refugee camps in Ethiopia while a similar number had been forced to leave Africa. The fate of those who can no longer be traced remains largely unknown.

Several European Aid agencies including Oxfam, Save the Children and ActionAid from Britain, have been working in the horn of Africa for several years. Representatives spoke yesterday to The Guardian because of concern but asked not to be identified so that their work would not be prejudiced.

Officials are talking of the partial destruction of the Issaq and of what amounts to “a great cover-up” to prevent an international outcry against the government. The Americans, they said, had not confronted the government in the way they should have done over “the horrific things”, which have been happening. The US maintains a military base at Berbera on the Gulf of Aden.

A US state department spokesman said last night that the “worst excesses” of the civil war had occurred last summer. US policy, he added, was not to cover up the war but to encourage national reconciliation by urging the government to talk with the rebels in the north.

Until about eight months ago the urbanised population of Issaqs were concentrated in Hargeisa, Berbera and Burao. Although few journalists have been authorised to visit the area, tens of thousands of people are understood to have died during a series of bombing raids on the towns last August, conducted mainly by mercenaries recruited in Zimbabwe.

“They just bombed and bombed and bombed,” an agency man, recently returned from Somalia, said. Hargeisa, which originally had a population of 350,000, was 70% destroyed. Burao was “devastated” in the same raids.

Issaqs who survived from the bombings are said to have been rounded up in the streets by Somali troops and summarily shot. Mass graves have since been found as well as corpses, which were left to rot in the streets where they fell.

The people now living in the three towns are believed to be totally non-Issaq or military personnel who have been deputed to guard what has been retaken from the SNM.

These claims, widely accepted by agencies who have been working in the country for some years, are to be investigated by Amnesty International team, which hopes to visit Somalia next month.

The situation has strained Somalia relations with Britain although the overseas development administration has been heavily involved in several aid programs there.

Several agencies have also had to consider their position carefully. Some have cited “impossible” working conditions, including the deliberate obstruction of food deliveries to areas in urgent need.

An Australian agency, Community Aid Abroad, preparing a dossier of complaints against the Somali government, is expected allege that there have been threats against staff members and local recruits.

The situation of 200,000 Somali refugees living in desert camps in southern Ethiopia is also causing acute concern.

Aid officials talk of “political nightmare” and “potential total disaster area”.

Now, in the middle of the dry season, the camps are said to be without access to fresh natural water supplies, having to depend for minimal supplies on erratic electric pumps.

In addition, more nutrition in the camps has been steadily increasing while food distribution is said to be “appalling”. Food is distributed from barbed wire enclosures where would-be recipients may be forced to wait up to two days only to be told supplies have run out.

Source: The Guardian, January 1989.

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Somalilands tre partier fått klartecken från Valkommitionen att börja sina politiska kampanjer

Idag har Somalilands tre partier fått klartecken från Valkommitionen att börja sina politiska  kampanjer. Valkommitionen höll en presskonferens i Hargeysa idag och meddelatt att from 3 Juni kan partierna börja sina politiska kampnajer och kan fortsatta tom 23 Juni 2010.

Här sitter alla tre parti ledarna, från vänster, UCID partis ordförande Faisal Ali Warabe, imitten regerande partiets ordförande samt Somalilands president Dahir Rayale Kahin och höger Kulmiye partiets ordförande, Ahmed Mohamed Mahamud (Siilaanyo)

Val kampanjer ska pågå  21 dagar och varje parti har rätt att kampanja 7 dagar, Valkommitionen har lagt fram ett schema, där står vilka dagar varje parti har rätt att  kampanja. ett sätt att inte störa ordningen. Valkommitionen vädjar nu till alla tre partierna att respektera  valavtalet.

President Urges Somalilanders To Get Voting Cards

Hargeysa, Somaliland, May 22, 2010 (SL Times) – Somaliland President Dahir Rayale Kahin held a press conference Monday. The president addressed several important issues, among them, the necessity of citizens’ participation in the coming election and the importance of the citizens taking their voting cards from the distribution centers. The president also revealed that the 19th anniversary of Somaliland’s reclamation of its independence (May 18) will not be celebrated because of the need to prepare for the election. Similarly, the 50th anniversary of Somaliland’s independence (June 26) will not be celebrated because it would be election day.
President Dahir Rayale Kahin warned the people that Somaliland’s enemies might engage in subversive activities in the middle of the election, as they had done in similar occasions in the past and advised Somalilanders to be vigilant.
He also referred to his recent visit to France and pointed out that the international community is finally acknowledging Somaliland’s just cause for independence. Even Arab countries that used to be the least receptive to Somaliland’s cause have changed their tune lately, the president said.
The president did not take any questions from the press.

Sources: Somaliland Times

Somaliland: Celebration Of Art And Culture

By Ebony Iman

When you first walked into the Panorama Hall that night, one could not help but notice the paintings that lined the walls. Thirteen gifted artists based here in Hargeysa, displayed beautiful images reflecting traditional and contemporary Somali society. Paintings of camels walking with grace as they were led across the plains, to those drawing attention the challenges faced by Somali people, such as migration and war were on display.

Afrikanation Artists Organization (AAO) and Somaliland Culture and Sports Association (SOCSA) teamed up to present a “Celebration of Art and Culture” in Hargeysa, Somaliland on April 28th, 2010. This was a celebration of traditional and recent artistic flavors and for the foundation of Afrikanation, which is a local non-profit, non-governmental organization designed to empower African artists and their communities under the belief that art does have the power to positively change society and the world.

Gazing across this long line of evidence affirming the talent that exists here, your eyes were then led to a table filled with many tiny hands busily working to create our artists of our future. Working with Najma Axmed Xaashi, an artist from Mogadishu, the youth produced some dynamic pieces with art supplies donated by students at California College of the Arts and supporters. Afrikanation partnered with Defne Beyce, a Graduate Design student at California College of the Arts in San Francisco, California, USA and Ismail Ismail, a great supporter also residing in California, to organize and deliver these much-needed art supplies. Art supplies are virtually unobtainable in this region due to high price and proximity, and it is one of Afrikanation’s founding goals to make supplies accessible to artists who need them. Crayons to professional level acrylic paints donated were quickly put to use in the youth art station and weekly Afrikanation Artist Workshops.

The night officially opened with a Koranic reading and song by Ilyas Mohamed Omar, a dynamic eight year old, then cultural song and dance by Somaliland Culture and Sports Association. SOCSA is a local, non-profit, non-governmental organization that educates the youth on current economic, social and health related challenges and the importance of physical education through sport. The dancers lit up the room dressed in traditional Somali attire as they swirled to the beat and songs of our ancestors. Seeing the faces of the young people that filled the crowd lit with excitement brings hope that these traditions will be passed on for many generations to come.

Following the cultural dance were the break-dancing Groovies. The Groovies enlivened the audience with their creative storytelling through dance. This dynamic group of teenage boys and SOCSA together represent the diversity that exists in our youth today. Hani Abdi Ali utilizes fashion as a tool to address traditional styles of dress with a new flair through her new line of dresses that were worn at the event.

Mohamed Bulshaawi and Abdirahim Daalalayn shared their gift of song with a crowd of excited listneners anxious to hear more. All in all, this night was a blessed celebration of art, talent and culture that Allah gifted us with right here at home.

This event would not have been the same without great support of the community. To Panorama, Lucy University, Defne Beyce, Ismail Ismail, California College of the Arts, art supply donors, friends of the arts and certainly not least the artists, musicians, poets, dancers, designers, supporters and friends shared their gifts and helped during the celebration, thank you. This sets the stage for many positive exchanges in the future celebrating our art and our culture with the community at large.

For more information about SOCSA, please contact them at or visit their website at

For more information about Afrikanation Artists Organization, please contact them at or join their group page on Facebook under Afrikanation Artists Organization today.

Somaliland: Daallo Airlines Re-launch

Hargeysa, Somaliland, May 22, 2010 – Daallo Airlines management is delighted to announce to its customers, and travelling communities in Somaliland, Djibouti, Somalia and the region that the company resumed its operations, yesterday, May 17th 2010. All the flights to its network, both for passenger and cargo will start in full by June 3rd, 2010.

Daallo Airlines is home grown success story of 20 years, which has contributed immensely to the development of Djibouti, both economically, socially and this

re-launch intends to reinforce this achievement. The company is going under restructuring and rebranding to sustain a high performance level, by giving its customers efficient and cost effective air transportation services.

The founders Daallo Airlines, Mohamed Haji Abdillahi Abusita and Mohamed Ibrahim Yassin ( Olad), have got reengaged in the management of the company, to ensure that the company keeps its strategy of meeting the growing air transportation services demand of the communities in the region of Horn of Africa.

Daallo Airlines has repositioned itself with commitment to regain its position as the airline of 1st choice in Somaliland, Djibouti and Somalia.

Daalo Airlines Press Release on Wednesday, May 19, 2010

Sources: Somaliland Times

Somalilnd YouthPeace Poem Contest part 3 the Final

Winner of the somaliland youth peace poem contest 2009

Tartanka Gabyada nabada dhalinyarada somaliland part 1

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Somaliland 18 may 2010 …. in Holland

The President of Somaliland His Excellency Dahir Riyale Kahin has given a brief press release to the Media

The President of Somaliland His Excellency Dahir Riyale Kahin has given a
brief press release to the Media regarding about the terrorists jailed in
Somaliland Jails.

The following is the Press release:

During my last Journey in Europe I have been put under pressure to
release terrorists detained in our Somaliland Jails.

I am proud to affirm that justice of Somaliland is not under influence and
that nothing can justify the release of this people who have been
sentenced for terror attacks against the population of Somaliland.

Press spokesman of the President

Siad Adani Mooge

Somaliland Chooses Historic Day For Presidential Election

Hargeysa, Somaliland, May 15, 2010 (SL Times) – The spokesman of Somaliland Election Commission Mr Ahmed Muhammad Hirsi Geele announced on Wednesday that Somaliland’s presidential election will be held on June 26, 2010.
Ahmed Muhammad Hirsi Geele said that the election commission had met with President Dahir Rayale Kahin and submitted to him a letter signed by the seven election commission members that set the date of the election and the President accepted the date.
Mr. Geele added that now they are expecting the president to issue a government directive that confirms the election date.
June 26 is a day of great significance for Somalilanders, since it was on that date, 50 years ago, that Somaliland gained its independence from Britain.

Voting Cards Distributed Throughout Somaliland

Hargeysa, Somaliland, May 15, 2010 (SL Times) – The distributing of voting cards began throughout Somaliland on Thursday.
People arrived early in the morning and patiently waited in long lines. The voting cards distribution went smoothly in most locations except for a few places where the cards could not be distributed due to inclement weather or technical difficulties.
The current voting cards distribution is designed to correct the mistakes that accompanied a previous card distribution operation.

Sources: Somaliland Times

New Buildings Added To University Of Hargeysa And Amoud University

New Buildings Added To University Of Hargeysa And Amoud University

Hargeysa, Somaliland, May 15, 2010 (SL Times) – New buildings, some of which have already been completed while others are still under construction have been added to

the University of Hargeysa. One of these new buildings is for the study of conflict resolution.

The new constructions are not the only tangible progress that the University of Hargeysa has made within a year since the new university administration took over. Other improvements include an increase in the number of computers at the University, photocopy machines, books and foreign professors who teach specialties for which local teachers could not be found. University of Hargeysa also has acquired with the help of CFBT a database system and provides a legal clinic.
New buildings and halls were also added to Amoud University. In a ceremony to mark the occasion, the ribbons for the new buildings were cut by the Minister of State for Education Mr Mohamud Garaad Muhammad. Also present at the ceremony were the President of Amoud University, Suleiman Ahmed Guleed, the head of African Education Trust Hassan Ambassy, officials from DRC and Awdal education officials

Sources: Somaliland Times

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Violence and Fraud Already Being Injected into the Somaliland Presidential Election Process as Neigh

Violence and Fraud Already Being Injected into the Somaliland Presidential Election Process as Neigh
Written by Defense & Foreign Affairs
May 19, 2010 at 06:32 AM
Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis: May 18, 2010. © GIS/ISSA Analysis. From GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs Stations Addis Ababa and Hargeisa, and other sources. The delicate security situation in and around the Horn of Africa by mid-May 2010 began to get dramatically worse, with the potential for major problems for the international sea trade — particularly in energy products and manufactures — through the Red Sea/Suez sea lanes, as a result of major foreign involvement in major, and imminent, elections in Somaliland and Ethiopia.Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis: May 18, 2010. © GIS/ISSAArguably, the situation in Somaliland is the less stable of the two situations, although they are directly linked, given their contiguous borders, and the fact that Somaliland is now the key overland trade link for Ethiopia to Red Sea shipping. Moreover, actions in Somaliland in the second week of May 2010 showed an intensity which has all but overturned the prospect for free and fair elections, and has heightened the possibility that the election could be hijacked by pan-Somalists who would return the stable region to a union with Somalia, which is presently without any meaningful government.


Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis, April 21, 2010: Somaliland’s Presidential Election Assumes Growing Priority as Major Powers Sense Strategic Urgency of the Horn Situation.

Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis, May 4, 2010: The Puntland Region of Soma-lia, and the Piracy Links: a Brief Overview.

Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis, May 6, 2010: Eritrea and Jihadists Escalate Violence in Ethiopia Ahead of Elections There.

Terrorist actions inside Ethiopia continued to escalate in the run-up to the May 23, 2010, Parliamentary elections, with a number of direct incidents inside Ethiopian territory involving Eritrean troops. There has been a build-up of Ethiopian Defense Force (EDF) personnel near the Eritrean border in Tigré Province, among other areas, checking particularly for incursions and to determine whether land-mines or impro-vised explosive devices (IEDs) have been lain during the night by Eritrean personnel. At least one land-mine was found by a Chinese road construction company on May 11, 2010, 7km outside Sheraro on the road to Humera near Shire Endaselassie, in Tigré.

Clashes since the beginning of May 2010 in Ethiopia’s ethnically Somali region — which the Somalis call the Ogaden and which was once the Harerge province of Ethiopia — between EDF personnel and (now more importantly) the Regional Special Police Force (RSPF) against insurgents of the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF) have ramifications not only for Ethiopia but also for Somaliland. The ONLF is supported by the Eritrean Government and had links with al-Ittihad al-Islami, which has subsequently — with the effective disintegration of al-Ittihad — become blurred with the Somali al-Shabaab group, which is in turn supported by elements of the al-Qaida movements, and, more surreptitiously by the Iranian Government. Significantly, the ONLF has consistently undertaken armed warfare against Somaliland as well as Ethiopia. Extract from Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis 2 May 18, 2010 D&FA Confidential © 2010 Global Information System, ISSA

Two senior ONLF commanders were reported killed in early May 2010 in clashes with the RSPF in the Korahe and Warden zones of the Ethiopian Somali region, although one of those killed had apparently been mis-identified by the RSPF, and later called the BBC Somali service to say that he had not been killed.

On the whole, however, the Meles Government has the security situation largely under control inside Ethiopia, and was totally prepared for the uptick in security incidents from Eritrea and Eritrean-sponsored organizations in the country. This is the fourth general election which the Meles Zenawi EPRDF Govern-ment has faced, and, if anything, it is well geared toward any escalation which might lead to a renewed open conflict with Eritrea. Indeed, the one major embarrassment for the Meles Government is that it helped create the Eritrean crisis, because of the longstanding Meles relationship with Eritrean leaders Isayas Afewerke while the Dergue was still in power in Ethiopia (1974-1990), and before Eritrea was in-dependent.

Essentially, many Ethiopians blame Prime Minister Meles for giving Eritrea independence from Ethiopia in 1993, only to have Eritrea then become hostile to, and invade, Ethiopia. Today, however, Eritrea is milita-rily and economically weak, and has enlisted considerable aid from such allies as Egypt to enable it to sustain hostility against Ethiopia, containing it as a landlocked state.

However, because of the landlocked status which Ethiopia now has since it gave independence to Eri-trea, and included in Eritrean territory some Ethiopian lands and ports which had never historically been Eritrean, Ethiopia is now heavily dependent on the stability and goodwill of Djibouti and Somaliland (for-mer British Somaliland).

Somaliland’s Presidential elections had been due to be held in 2009, but were delayed due to a total breakdown in the voter registration system. For some time, some members of the Somaliland Election Commission, have become financially compromised to a mix of opposition groups and external influ-ences, notably from the Interpeace movement which is effectively a self-sustaining non-governmental organization (NGO), but which claims association with the United Nations. Interpeace, mainly through its offices in Nairobi, has been funding opposition parties and — possibly indirectly — individuals within the Election Commission. As well, Interpeace funded the provision of new “biometric voter registration cards”, which it had made for the Commission in South Africa.

Interpeace recently gave the opposition officials and the National Election Commission (NEC) officials with whom it had a relationship an ultimatum. Either ensure that a Presidential election was scheduled to be held before the end of July 2010, or Interpeace would cut off its secret funding and other support. The Election Commission came out with a call, in early May 2010, for the Presidential election to be held on June 26, 2010, Somaliland’s national day. Somaliland Pres. Dahir Rayale Kahin, of the Unity of Demo-cratic Alliance (UDUB) Party, not wishing to be seen as the obstacle to elections — for which Somalil-and’s foreign supporters, particularly the US, UK, France, and the EU generally had been pushing — agreed to the date, even though it gave the Government less than six weeks to prepare for the event.

The major problem was that the voter rolls had been heavily tampered with because Interpeace had been given a contract by its colleagues in the Electoral Commission to prepare them. At the same time, the “biometric” voter registration cards began being distributed — and are now continuing to be distributed — throughout the country.

What has emerged, however, is that the cards are by no means “biometric” or secure, and they have been distributed with a clear intent to create a fraudulent result. Some individuals have been issued with 17 or more cards, enabling multiple votes from a single individual, for example.

Interpeace and some of the key opposition figures reacted swiftly, vigorously, and with hostility when the Somaliland media received a leaked copy of the confidential Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis of April 21, 2010, carrying the report entitled Somaliland’s Presidential Election Assumes Growing Priority as Major Powers Sense Strategic Urgency of the Horn Situation. This report made it clear that there was an improper relationship between Interpeace — whose members have been linked to organized manipu-lation of elections and insurgency groups in the Balkans, and elsewhere — and opposition politicians in Somaliland. As well, the report made it clear that some opposition politicians were not only linked with the policies and actions of the al-Shabaab terrorist group in neighboring Somalia, but had also advocated Extract from Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis 3 May 18, 2010 D&FA Confidential © 2010 Global Information System, ISSA

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either a pan-Somalist outcome for the area — in other words having stable and peaceful Somaliland rejoin war-torn Somalia — or the introduction of shari’a law as the governing law of Somaliland.

All of this puts the US State Department, and the European governments supporting Somaliland, in a dif-ficult position, having so strenuously pushed Pres. Kahin to re-schedule the Presidential elections at an early date, to be followed rapidly by Parliamentary elections for the House of Representatives (lower house) and the House of Elders (upper house).

None of the major governments with a vital interest in Somaliland — including those regional states hos-tile to it, such as Eritrea, Egypt, and Somalia, which see Somaliland as a vital lifeline for Ethiopia — can been seen to call for a delay in the Presidential election until basic transparency and security can be res-tored to the voting system. On the other hand, the present conditions pave the way for an absolute hijack-ing of the election on June 26, 2010. Moreover, numerous opposition sources have made it clear to GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs that they will not rely solely on being able to hijack the ballot, and were ready for major street action and other destabilizing incidents to ensure that the ruling UDUB party did not win the election.

Not only is Somaliland in a key position in the counter-piracy conflict which is based out of the neighbor-ing Puntland region of Somalia, it is vital to the world trading community’s control of the Red Sea and ad-jacent maritime region. There are also considerable oil and other mineral reserves at stake in Somaliland territory, and the Somaliland port of Berbera, for example, is to be a key node in the major Internet cable which would link the African East Coast with the high-speed global systems.

At the same time, the People’s Republic of China (PRC) is also pushing its naval presence into the re-gion, as well as into the Persian Gulf, for the first time since the Ming Dynasty 600 years ago, something which has not gone unnoticed in Washington. How long will Beijing ignore Somaliland? That is, assuming Somaliland remains intact after the June 26, 2010, Presidential election.

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Somalilands national dag 18 Maj 2010

May 18 Freedom Garden Hargeisa Somaliland

Tv Universal doorashada ka dhacaysa Somaliland 26 Juun 2010

Valsedlarna har börjats dela ut i Somaliland idag

Idag är det  en historisk dag , då folk i Somaliland köade för att,  registerera sig och få  nya valsedlar.  Köarna ringlade  i de ställe folk anvisade till att registrera sig runt om i Somaliland.  Det har rapporterats att  allting gick lugt till, förutom förseningar med registeringsmaskiner som skulle vara på plats. Folk började köa  redan 5 på morgonen att ta sig till registeringsplatserna.

Caydiid On Somaliland 1992

Här får ni höra General  Mohamed farah Aidiid, en av de värsta krigsherrena i Somalia på 90 talet.  Här får han frågan vad han anser om Somalilands självständighet. Lyssna på den, en mycket intressant intervjue. Intervjuen gjordes 1992.